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Title: Alright skeptics- start debunking!
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(Date Posted:06/30/2007 8:47 PM)

I found these on theCoast to Coast AMwebsite.My name is Lisa and I'm a psychic medium, paranormal researcher and EVP specialist in Oklahoma City, OK. I took the first photo while on an investigation at the Emporium in Guthrie, Oklahoma. I was in the basement of the building with Ron Cross of PROS Investigations. I took this photo of Ron [and lady friend] while also running digital audio. This photo has been tested by film school professors and other research groups and it has NOT been altered in any way other than being cropped. Some skeptics have said it is possibly a "double exposure" except that the apparition is definitely female, doesn't have a beard and is bare armed. In a double exposure the image should be a duplicate image of the core subject. The second image comes from investigation I did at an attic space above one of our historical buildings which is now a retail store. I captured this photo of what appears to be a man dressed in old fashioned clothes behind a ladder. I also captured a very clear EVP [Electronic Voice Phenomenon] of an angry male voice saying "I killed the Gold Smith". Please note-- there are no people in this photo besides the apparition so this is NOT a double exposure and this photo has NOT been retouched. I have taken other apparition photos using a technique I developed. These photos may be viewed atprosinvestigations.com. --Lisa G. longshortrose@aol.com

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(Date Posted:10/09/2007 11:14 PM)

I guess I see what you are saying, but I don't see how simply putting a filter on the flash - you still won't come up with photographic defects.  Like I was mentioning before with the flashlight instance or other reflective surfaces... no matter what "color" the flash is - these will still show up in the shot, be it photo or video. 

Thank you for taking the time to explain your procedure a litte more clearly though!

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(Date Posted:09/22/2007 7:22 AM)

Exactly Lisa, Gotta have fun--I love trying to capture the EVPs as well--I am still a firm believer in multiple pieces of evidence at one time....I do have to disprove, or rule out the ordinary before I can prove a haunting. I think it makes it a lot harder to rule in the paranormal.  I also know I cannot rely on just the EVP's to do this.   We all have to try and capture as much as we can, and continue to share it as openly as possible.  I appreciate that you are willing to do that.  

Thanks for joining us!  You will see we enjoy a friendly bit of debate around here!  So post any evidence you'd like to present, but please don't take it personally if we don't all agree that you have something, based on what you have presented so far, I think you have a good dose of common sense as well, so I am not to worried about that! LOL

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(Date Posted:09/22/2007 7:09 AM)

Thanks Ann,

and yes, I do put a lot of time into this research...I have spent thousands of hours of researching, investigating and processing my EVP recordings. The photos are actually a sideline. My main focus is on EVP. I believe that EVP is some of the hardest evidence we can capture as paranormal investigators. Photos are fairly subjective but  I love to see those skeptics faces when they are standing right there during a recording session then I play back immediately and the voices are there...Their faces are priceless!  I also try to maintain a healthy dose of humor with this work or we all would go mad ;-)

Cheers,

Lisa G

 

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(Date Posted:09/22/2007 6:58 AM)

Wow! Lisa, you are really putting a lot of thought into what you are doing.  Thanks for taking the time to explain it all to us!

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(Date Posted:09/22/2007 6:38 AM)

Hello All,

My name is Lisa G and I took the photos you are debunking. I'm the former Operations Director of PROS Investigations in Oklahoma City and currently the founder of my new all female group CRIS [Contact Research Investigation Specialists] Please feel free to ask me any questions about how I took these photos. Please email me at longshortrose@aol.com You can hear the EVP associated with the second photo on my new web site at criscontactresearch.com

I've recently recieved an email from a skeptic named Harold that asked me about the technique I used for these photos. He presumed I was using a traditional camera that  "bleeds over"

Here is a copy and paste of my response to his question, I hope it fills in some of the dots...

Hello Harold,
 
I'm using a digital camera so it doesn't "roll"  or bleed over between shots as in a traditional camera.
 
The technique I've developed involves filtering the flash. Cameras use a white light flash and I break the color spectrum down using a blue filter on the flash itself. I've taken thousands of photos trying all different colored filters on the flash and these type of photos have only come through with the blue. If you study light mechanics you know that white light includes all the color spectrum between 4,000 and 6,470 angstroms. I believe that when I reduce the spectrum to one color it allows the spirit or entity to become visible in the blue bandwidth between 4,240 angstroms and 4,912 angstroms. If you do try this do not use blue tape or anything like this as it will create a static charge on the flash mechanism. I use a small piece of clear blue plastic. If you compare what I'm saying to say radio or television frequencies you know that one cannot get a clear broadcast if the specific bandwidth is not locked in on a very small section of the radio wave frequency range. I simply applied this logic to the range of light in the color spectrum required to produce a still photo.
 
Some of the skeptics said that these shots are random "blobs of light that look like people". I also take into consideration the mathematical odds of a particular "blob of light" that creates an image that appears to resemble someone close to the subject, as in the apparition photo taken of my father hugging his grandson [posted on criscontactresearch.com] . Add to this equation that I had just asked my father to come through in a photo and the mathematical odds of randomness decreases by a billion to one.  I do have many photos where the image is what I consider "too subjective" so I only post those that are not subjective to multiple viewers. In other words, virtually everyone who looks at the photo sees the same thing.  
 
I'm also a psychic medium, so I can often see the beings forming or transitioning to our frequency. There are new research studies that indicate the Mediums bio energy field is somehow used to transmit or amplify the intake energy field utilized by electronic equipment such as camera's or recording devices.  There are some very interesting studies documented in the 70's in Europe by top physicists on this theory. You can read about some of these by studying the work of Konstantin Raudive  the proverbial father of EVP [Electronic voice phenomena].
 
Thank you for your interest in my photos and as you can see there is a scientific reasoning process guiding my paranormal research  ;-)
 
Blessings,
Lisa G



 

 

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(Date Posted:07/06/2007 8:21 AM)

OMG.  LOL I accidently take pics like this all the time . . just from moving (not holding the camera still enough) or whatever.  NOT paranormal!
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(Date Posted:07/04/2007 6:06 PM)

I am not saying HE is holding the flashlight, but perhaps who is taking the photo or someone next to the person taking the pic.  I've gotten a very similiar effect many times.  You can make this effect in mid-air with no place needed for it to reflect or refract off of.  Pisses me off every time, but it's definitely not paranormal.  Why was this person taking pics of a dude fixing electrical wiring anyways? And I'm still not seeing the "man in period clothing" or whatever this person is saying to look for. LOL

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(Date Posted:07/02/2007 6:23 PM)

Ok, notice the 1st thing. This guy is an electrician and he is running wires. LOL! That in itself can be a problem with shocks and sparks etc. He may have a light device, not a flashlight, but a testing light to make sure the wires are not active. This would have to be hooked to a live wire though to produce the light though. The 1st picture however looks like he is pulling the wires out of the box they came in and running them thru the ceiling. I doubt he would have the testing light at that end. Honeslty it looks like double exposure to me. The shiney light thing could be a fragment of wire from the wires he is cutting that caught some light while in the air. When you use wire cutters they stip the rubber off the main wires. There are hundres sometimes of tiny wires twined around each other. These sometimes break off while cutting and can fly off at that time. It could be the cutters themselves that are metal causing a reflection also. It does look like he is holding cutters to cut the wires he is running.

The picture with the ladder and the shiny bar thing looks like a flash reflection off that bar on to the lens of the camera. I don't see an apparition.

 

I personally feel there is nothing paranormal about either picture unless there is very solid readings or evidence to go with it.

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(Date Posted:07/01/2007 8:47 PM)

... OR they are using the same freaking flashlight that Mike uses.... and I always get "paranormal" shots with... LMAO!  Were they using a flashlight by any chance? 

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(Date Posted:07/01/2007 5:52 PM)

The top photo does not interest me , because there is still that chance of double exposure and it is the only incident that occured. Unfortunately, I have a lot of trouble with any single piece of evidence.   I am much more interested in the bottom photo because they had EVP evidence also.   They could really back up what is going on in that photo if they did a bit of research on the place to see if there was a Gold Smith murdered nearby and then find out more about the former residents. I also like the second phote because the "apparition" seems to have not only a head and  shoulders but what appears to be a foot (at the bottom of the door frame) as if it were a full size adult in comparison to the door frame.  My biggest issue with the second photo is the reflective surfaces--the center portion of the "apparition" appears to be a magnification of the reflection from the bar in the center of the frame.   Of course you have to put a critical eye to it regardless.

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